How do you rake in Balth Faction? - Guild Wars Forums

AngeloM3 · Sep 06, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Hey hey all you Guru heads!

Well I'm starting to get bored with the PvE side of GW and EoTN. So I've been hitting up some HA, I'm still a HA noob with 9 Hero Points! w00t!

Just curious how all of you PvP'ers rake in Balth Faction to unlock skills.
-AB's just take to damn long... and can only earn decent faction on certain maps.
-Zaishen Challenge and Zaishen Elite there is a cap. (but I have heard you can bring a group of trappers and pwn the Zaishen's)
-FFF seems like it would take just as long as AB's

So how do you rake in all the Balth faction??

Yichi · Sep 06, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

GvG is the fastest way to earn faction, providing you win.

HA can also be a good way for faction as well as fame, but again its providing you win.

TA/RA can be good too, but will be a little slower than GvG/HA, but like always, you have to win to benefit from it.

AB = horrible for balth faction

Trappers will own the hell out of the Zaishen, but youre only allowed 1k faction a day i believe.

Probably the "Fastest" way if you have the cash and dont have a guild dedicated to PvP that participates in PvP actively, would be to buy Golden Flames of Balthazar. They are usually selling for like 5k a piece and give you 3k faction.

Sujoy · Sep 06, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38

8k in Zaishen Elite, 2k in Zaishen Challenge, so you get a net profit of maximum 10k per day.

Abit of trapping and ABing makes my day.

AngeloM3 · Sep 06, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Yah seems likes trapping in both Zaishens is the way to go.

What kind of group do you take? 3 trappers + 1 monk?
And what are the builds?

Sujoy · Sep 06, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Search the PvP forums or PvXwiki

www.pvxwiki.com

MisterB · Sep 06, 2007, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sujoy

8k in Zaishen Elite, 2k in Zaishen Challenge, so you get a net profit of maximum 10k per day.

Abit of trapping and ABing makes my day.

It's 6K in Zaishen Elite, and have you actually tested whether you can do both Challenge and Elite to earn 8K/day? Pretty sure that Elite just lets you pass the 2K Challenge cap to a total of 6K/day in all Zaishen zones. I'll test it later.

AngeloM3 · Sep 06, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sujoy

Search the PvP forums or PvXwiki

www.pvxwiki.com

Trust me on on pvx every day. But nothing on what you should bring for Zaishen trapping.

I guess the UW trapping build would work.

Thanks for the info everyone!

MisterB · Sep 06, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Have a look here:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10187454

Too lazy to repost builds.

AngeloM3 · Sep 06, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Have a look here:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10187454

Too lazy to repost builds.

Thanks a bunch man!

Also with the faction cap on the Zaishens... from what wiki says.... it sounds like if you reach the cap in the Challenge (2k) you can't earn anymore until 24hrs EVEN if you head to Elite.

But also sounds like if you don't cap out at 2k in Challege.... and you go to Elite then you can earn a total of 6k.

Again this isnt FACT its just how I'm taking it from Wiki
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Zaishen_Elite

bilateralrope · Sep 06, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Trapping is a good thing to do in the zaishen, but that requires either other players, which means you need to find people who know what they are doing.

So what I do is:

- SF ele hero w mark of rodgort and meteor shower.
- Monk hero, many PvE builds will work.
- Ranger with frozen soil, maybe EoE and 6 optional slots.
- Black spot, usually I get someone here to just leach faction off of me. But a second SF ele hero also works. Strangely things seem to go better with an AFK human than an empty spot.

Going against the illusionary weaponry team I rarely see a match last over 1 minute from the gate opening. The only micromanagement you might need to do is making sure the ranger doesn't place FS down too early, and targeting a straggler if some survive the initial AOE so that your heroes attack it.

I'd suggest you play the ranger and make sure the spirits stay up in the starting area. Let the heroes do as they please until the enemies scatter from the AOE then you attack the closest one.

LONGA · Sep 07, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

I got most the Balthazzar Factions in fort aspenwood.They count NPC Kill for factions as well.

AngeloM3 · Sep 07, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

I did some searching on YouTube for trapping in Elite.

Unless they nerfed something... seems like you only need 2 trappers to get the job done. 6k every day... not that bad at all.

4ssassin · Sep 07, 2007, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Fort Aspenwood is good to me in balth faction terms.

LumpOfCole · Sep 07, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Playing as a healer in RA.

H2BH · Sep 07, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Yes very simple, play a monk in RA and don't suck.

50x4 = 200balth for kills

+50 or 100 for flawless

Do this on international server late at night and youll rake in faction casue half of every team you face will leave

Terra Xin · Sep 07, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

RA. But that's only because I go there all the time.

Vanquisher · Sep 07, 2007, 01:16 PM // 13:16

gvg?

56789101

Kryth · Sep 07, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

I second those who said RA.

Even without playing monk, you can try to simultaneously enter with a monk at a late hour and own or just try ur chances with randoms. I'm r4 and a half hero but I unlocked most of my skills/runes/upgrades playing RA.

Sep 06, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#1
AngeloM3 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: RI Guild: Diciples of Rage [RAGE]	How do you rake in Balth Faction? Hey hey all you Guru heads! Well I'm starting to get bored with the PvE side of GW and EoTN. So I've been hitting up some HA, I'm still a HA noob with 9 Hero Points! w00t! Just curious how all of you PvP'ers rake in Balth Faction to unlock skills. -AB's just take to damn long... and can only earn decent faction on certain maps. -Zaishen Challenge and Zaishen Elite there is a cap. (but I have heard you can bring a group of trappers and pwn the Zaishen's) -FFF seems like it would take just as long as AB's So how do you rake in all the Balth faction??

Sep 06, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32	#2
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	GvG is the fastest way to earn faction, providing you win. HA can also be a good way for faction as well as fame, but again its providing you win. TA/RA can be good too, but will be a little slower than GvG/HA, but like always, you have to win to benefit from it. AB = horrible for balth faction Trappers will own the hell out of the Zaishen, but youre only allowed 1k faction a day i believe. Probably the "Fastest" way if you have the cash and dont have a guild dedicated to PvP that participates in PvP actively, would be to buy Golden Flames of Balthazar. They are usually selling for like 5k a piece and give you 3k faction. Last edited by Yichi; Sep 06, 2007 at 08:36 PM // 20:36..

Sep 06, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#4
AngeloM3 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: RI Guild: Diciples of Rage [RAGE]	Yah seems likes trapping in both Zaishens is the way to go. What kind of group do you take? 3 trappers + 1 monk? And what are the builds? Last edited by AngeloM3; Sep 06, 2007 at 08:51 PM // 20:51..

Sep 06, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38	#3
Sujoy Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.) Guild: The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW] Profession: Mo/	8k in Zaishen Elite, 2k in Zaishen Challenge, so you get a net profit of maximum 10k per day. Abit of trapping and ABing makes my day.

Sep 06, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#5
Sujoy Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.) Guild: The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW] Profession: Mo/	Search the PvP forums or PvXwiki www.pvxwiki.com

Sep 06, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22	#8
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	Have a look here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10187454 Too lazy to repost builds.

Sep 06, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43	#10
bilateralrope Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Guild: Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)	Trapping is a good thing to do in the zaishen, but that requires either other players, which means you need to find people who know what they are doing. So what I do is: - SF ele hero w mark of rodgort and meteor shower. - Monk hero, many PvE builds will work. - Ranger with frozen soil, maybe EoE and 6 optional slots. - Black spot, usually I get someone here to just leach faction off of me. But a second SF ele hero also works. Strangely things seem to go better with an AFK human than an empty spot. Going against the illusionary weaponry team I rarely see a match last over 1 minute from the gate opening. The only micromanagement you might need to do is making sure the ranger doesn't place FS down too early, and targeting a straggler if some survive the initial AOE so that your heroes attack it. I'd suggest you play the ranger and make sure the spirits stay up in the starting area. Let the heroes do as they please until the enemies scatter from the AOE then you attack the closest one.

Sep 07, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49	#11
LONGA Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thailand Guild: Agot Profession: N/	I got most the Balthazzar Factions in fort aspenwood.They count NPC Kill for factions as well.

Sep 07, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52	#12
AngeloM3 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: RI Guild: Diciples of Rage [RAGE]	I did some searching on YouTube for trapping in Elite. Unless they nerfed something... seems like you only need 2 trappers to get the job done. 6k every day... not that bad at all.

Sep 07, 2007, 05:26 AM // 05:26	#13
4ssassin Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: none Profession: W/E	Fort Aspenwood is good to me in balth faction terms.

Sep 07, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39	#14
LumpOfCole Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Profession: Rt/	Playing as a healer in RA.

Sep 07, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24	#15
H2BH Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: AoE Profession: Mo/A	Yes very simple, play a monk in RA and don't suck. 50x4 = 200balth for kills +50 or 100 for flawless Do this on international server late at night and youll rake in faction casue half of every team you face will leave

Sep 07, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#16
Terra Xin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Zealand Profession: Me/R	RA. But that's only because I go there all the time.

Sep 07, 2007, 01:16 PM // 13:16	#17
Vanquisher Site Contributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Herts, UK Guild: One Hitter Quitters [QQ]	gvg? 56789101

Sep 07, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26	#18
Kryth Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ascalon Guild: Venatori Solaris	I second those who said RA. Even without playing monk, you can try to simultaneously enter with a monk at a late hour and own or just try ur chances with randoms. I'm r4 and a half hero but I unlocked most of my skills/runes/upgrades playing RA.